***** UNAPPROVED MINUTES *****

PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
April 1, 1998
7:30 PM
Jamestown Town Hall

Meeting was called to order at 7:31 pm and the following were in
attendance:
Betty Hubbard       Richard Waters
Gary Girard         Michael Smith
Arthur Milot        Mary Brennan
Rob Lambert         Dennis Webster

Also present: Lisa Bryer, AICP - Town Planner
     Kimberly Turcone - Recording Secretary
     James Quattrocchi - Mackerel Cove Heights
     David Garrigan - Mackerel Cove Heights
     Robert Angilli - Mackerel Cove Heights
     Jim Estes - Hamilton Avenue Subdivision
     Ted & Marilyn Smayda - Mackerel Cove Heights Abutter
     Joyce Solomon - Mackerel Cove Heights Abutter
     Carl Calderara - Mackerel Cove Heights Abutter
     Scott - Bisbing - Mackerel Cove Heights Abutter
     Bill Piva - Mackerel Cove Heights Abutter
     Tom Greig - Mackerel Cove Heights Abutter
     Betsy Gooding - Mackerel Cove Heights Abutter
     
I.  Reading and Approval of Minutes from March 18, 1998
A motion was made by Commissioner Girard and seconded by Commissioner
Smith to approve the minutes from March 18th as written.  So voted:
Betty Hubbard  - Aye      Richard Waters - Abstain
Gary Girard - Aye      Michael Smith - Aye
Arthur Milot - Aye     Mary Brennan - Aye
Rob Lambert - Aye      Dennis Webster - Aye
Motion carries by a vote of 7-0

II.  Correspondence
1.  CRMC notice to Allen Cicchtelli, 14 Tabor Dr., Johnston, RI to
construct and maintain: a residential boating facility to consist of a
107'+/- x4' fixed timber pier, a 16'x3' ramp and a 150 sq. ft. float with
4 tie off pilings at 46 Seaview Ave.
     Plat 7, Lot 195.  Received & Acknowledged
2.  CRMC notice to Paul R. and Sandra M. Edgerly, 90 Bay View Dr.,
Jamestown to construct and maintain: a residential boating facility to
consist of a 4'x78'+/- fixed timber pier, a 24' ramp and a 150 sq. ft.
float at 90 Bay View Dr., Plat 8, Lot 645.  Received & Acknowledged
3.  CRMC FINDING NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACT to Lanny Soderberg, 19 Bridgeview
Dr., Jamestown RE: maintenance to existing septic system (add 3 galleys to
existing ISDS) to 19 Bridgeview Dr., Plat 2, Lot 82.  Received &
Acknowledged
4.  CRMC FINDING NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACT to Gregory Zeek, 11 Mercy Weeden
Court, Jamestown RE: replace 2 pilings under existing bait shop located at
194 North Main Rd., Plat 8, Lot 615.  Received & Acknowledged

III.  Citizen's Non Agenda Item
With nothing at this time move on to Reports.

IV.  Reports
a.  Town Planner's Submitted Report
b.  Town Committees - With nothing at this time move on to Old Business.

V.  Old Business
1.  Hamilton Avenue Subdivision 
Mr. Estes distributed his topography site plan.  The Planning Commission
reviewed and discussed.  Commissioner Hubbard asked about his feelings
regarding basements and if they would be practical for the proposed
houses.
      Mr. Estes stated he didn't think they were practical because of the
water table.  

The Planning Commission then discussed the Planner's submitted report and
Mr. Estes letter.  The Commission asked the Town Planner if the plans can
be submitted to the Town Engineer, Warren Hall, for his review.
      The Planning Commission asked Mr. Estes to show a turnout for snow
plowing on his plans as per the Technical Review Committee's (TRC)
request.
      On the issue of extending Clinton Avenue to the property line, the
Planning Commission indicated a preference for the applicant's plan to
maintain the existing condition.

The topography plan shows building sites, ground water testing and
proposed grading which the Planning Commission asked the Town Engineer to
evaluate for surface water flow, level of existing pond and future
flooding problems on-site and off-site.
      The topography plan also shows the southeast corner of lot 491c
drainage into the abutter's line to the State drainage system on Hamilton
Avenue.
      The Planning Commission wants the Town Engineer to evaluate this as
well.

There will be no extension of the water line since Mr. Estes plans to
drill a well; however, he still prefers to hook up to the existing sewer
line with a residential sized connection.
      The Planning Commission asked for an opinion from the Town Engineer
on the long term effect for the Town in this case.

No formal vote was taken during this meeting with Mr. Estes.  The next
step for Mr. Estes is the Public Informational Meeting which will be held
on Wednesday, April 15th at 7:30 pm in the Town Hall.

2.  Community Survey
A motion was made by Commissioner Hubbard and seconded by Commissioner
Milot to delegate the survey questions to the Planner at her discretion.
      The motion also included delegating to the Planner's authority to
print and send out the survey as soon as possible.
      Commissioner Smith stated he would like to talk to the Planner about
certain questions.  So voted:
Betty Hubbard  - Aye      Richard Waters - Aye
Gary Girard - Aye      Michael Smith - Aye
Arthur Milot - Aye     Mary Brennan - Aye
Rob Lambert - Aye      Dennis Webster - Aye
Motion carries by a vote of 8-0
3.  Mackerel Cove Heights - Master Plan Informational Meeting/Public
Hearing
Commissioner Hubbard explained that this hearing was for the purpose of
the developer to explain cluster and conventional subdivision plans.
      It is up to the developer, Mr. Quattrocchi, to convince the
Commission that the conventional plan is better for the Town than the
required cluster plan.
      This is not the time to make any formal votes but rather to hear
comments and questions from the abutters.  

Mr. Quattrocchi reviewed and discussed schematics 1 & 2 for the public and
Commission.

Joyce Solomon, 89 Hamilton Avenue - Since you have cleared the property my
property has been wet.

James Quattrocchi the developer stated it is the wet season and a wet year
- I sympathize but the land has been reviewed by DEM and there are no
wetlands.

Joyce Solomon - It's very wet there now and if you develop this property
it will be worse.

Carl Calderara, 89 Hamilton Avenue - I was very disappointed with this
from the start.  How did they get a variance for the sewer?

Commissioner Hubbard explained that the water and sewer tie-ins come under
the Town Council's authority.

Ted Smayda, 25 Juniper Circle - Did you use Peter Ryan for your drainage
plans?

Mr. Quattrocchi explained that he threw out Mr. Ryan's work and hired
another engineer, Mr. Angilli, to draw up the drainage plans.

Ted Smayda - I am concerned about the calculations of the water flow.
      Juniper Circle, in the winter, is always frozen because of the
run-off from Mr. Quattrocchi's lot.  It is even worse now that the
property has been cleared.  What mechanisms will be in place to reduce
surface run off? 

Robert Angilli, PE  explained that the bottom line was not to make any
significant changes to the site.

Tom Greig, 83 Hamilton Avenue - I don't like schematic #1 (conventional).
      I don't like the path that borders schematic #2 (cluster).
      The numbers (prices of the lots when sold) don't make sense - real
estate wise.
      The cluster should bring in more money.
      I hope the Commission keeps to the regulations and decides on the
cluster.

Bill Piva, 105 Hamilton Avenue - Why can't the same kind of buffer be
proposed for both schemes (15' buffer between lots).
      I do not like the path.

Mr. Quattrocchi explained the reason for the path is to access the open
space and if you have open space and preserve it then someone should be
able to enjoy it.

Bill Piva - My property will abut the road into the development.
      Will there be any kind of buffer from the road (into the
development).

Mr. Garrigan explained that trees would be planted along the road.  Mr.
Quattrocchi added that the intent was to plant a buffer.

Betsey Gooding, 45 Highland Drive - I am in favor of the conventional
scheme but can you extend the 15' buffer zone?

Mr. Garrigan explained that the 15' is a minimum and nothing is set in
stone yet - maybe a 20' - 50' in certain areas, don't know.

Betsy Gooding - Scheme #1 (conventional), even with the plantings would be
much better.
      Will the property look like the plan when people start to live there
(people who live there eventually can cut all the trees down)?

Mr. Garrigan explained set backs to Ms. Gooding.  Mr. Quattrocchi added
that if the conventional subdivision is passed then set backs would be
recorded in the deed.   Commissioner Smith asked who would enforce the "no
cut zone".
       Mr. Quattrocchi stated the Town would.  The Town Planner stated
that a conservation easement is in favor of the Town.
      Mr. Quattrocchi stated he was not a lawyer but it would be enforced.

Scott Bisbing, 70 Green Lane - I am part owner of Rock Hill Farm (P.
     Greig property) and the Commission should stay with the idea of
cluster.
      Zoning Regulations will not have any validity at all if the cluster
is not chosen.  I also do not like the path.

Carl Calderara - I do not like the path at all - people like privacy and
this is not Roger William's Park.

Ted Smayda - I do not like the path, it supports criminal activity by
backdoor entry.  What is the reasoning for the 6"caliper trees?

Commissioner Hubbard explained that the Commission would like to see the
6" caliper trees saved.  The Planner added that street trees would be
required.  Mr. Smayda explained that there are more trees at the south end
of the property than at the north end of the property.
      He suggested that the open space in schematic #2 (cluster) be moved
to the south end to save the trees.  

Mr. Smayda also pointed out that there is a knoll at that end which the
proposed cul-de-sac would cut down.
      Mr. Smayda also stated that he like schematic #1 (conventional)
better and because the lots were larger the Town would receive more tax
money.
      After Mr. Smayda stated his preference for the conventional plan he
looked at his wife and commented that she preferred the cluster.

(Commissioner Waters leaves at 9:40 pm)

After some discussion, Commissioner Hubbard thanked all who came in
regards of the Mackerel Cove Heights development and stated she would see
the Quattrocchi's in May.

VI.  New Business
1.  Community Development Block Grant Application 1998/Consistancy with
Comprehensive Plan
A motion was made that the Jamestown Planning Commission hereby certifies
that the proposed FY1998 Community Development Block Grant activities are
in compliance with local development policy as set forth in the Jamestown
Comprehensive Community Plan and with the Jamestown Subdivision and Land
Development Regulations and the Zoning Ordinance.
      This motion was made by Commissioner Hubbard and seconded by
Commissioner Smith.  

After some discussion it was agreed and a motion was made by Commissioner
Webster and seconded by Commissioner Girard to take out the "Jamestown
Subdivision and Land Development Regulations and the Zoning Ordinance".
     So voted:
Betty Hubbard  - Aye      Michael Smith - Aye
Gary Girard - Aye      Mary Brennan - Aye
Arthur Milot - Aye     Dennis Webster - Aye
Rob Lambert - Aye      
Motion carries as amended by a vote of 7-0
 
A motion was made by Commissioner Hubbard and seconded by Commissioner
Girard to adjourn at 10:15 pm by a unanimous vote.

Attest:

Kimberly Turcone
Recording Secretary