July 7, 2004

7:30 PM

 Jamestown Melrose School


The meeting was called to order at 7:34 p.m. and the following members were present:

Gary Girard                              Victor Calabretta

Barry Hollland             

William Kelly


Not present:

Betty Hubbard

Jean MacGregor Brown

Andrew Kallfelz


Also present:

Lisa Bryer, AICP – Town Planner

Cinthia Reppe – Recording Clerk

Richard Pastore – Town Engineering Consultant

Mr. and Mrs. John Perrotti

Craig CarriganCarrigan Engineering Inc.

Margaret Hogan – Attorney


I.          Approval of Minutes from June 2,2004

A motion was made by Commissioner Calabretta and seconded by Commissioner Kelly to accept the minutes as written.  So unanimously voted.


      Approval of minutes from June 16, 2004

A motion was made by Commissioner Calabretta and seconded by  Commissioner Kelly to accept the minutes as written. So unanimously voted.


I.      Correspondence


1.      FYI – Memo to Town Council from Planning Commission Re: Proposed Zoning Ordinance Amendments to Section 314 – High ground water table and impervious layer overlay district.  Received.


III. Citizen’s Non Agenda Item – nothing at this time


Commissioner Kallfelz arrives at 7:38 p.m.


IV. Reports

1.   Town Planner’s Report

2.   Town Committees

a.       Harbor

Commissioner Kallfelz reported that there is a touch and go dock in now and it is working well at East Ferry.


b.      Fort Getty

Fort Getty update, meetings on Thursdays every other week in the afternoon.  They have gone through and looked at goals of 1994 plan.

c.       Buildings and Facilities

d.      Others

3.   Sub Committees


Commissioner Calabretta reported that there is a hearing on LNG at Gaudet School tomorrow night at 7:30 p.m. It is his understanding this will be a scoping meeting. 

Commissioner Girard informed the Commission that he will be leaving as is Commissioner Kelley for an interview with the Town Council but will return right after the interview.



V.   Old Business- nothing at this time



VI. New Business

    1. John Perrotti – Ship St. Plat 15 Lots 73 &74 -  Zoning Ordinance Section 314 – Sub-district A Review

Margaret Hogan attorney at Hogan and Hogan Attorneys.  Here for PC’s approval and recommendation.  Town Planner asked for additional information and she will be handing that out right now.  Mr. Craig Carrigan will be addressing the topography issues.

500 foot radius map was handed out to the Planning Commission.  Commissioner Girard asked for a few minutes to review the information that was just handed out.  Commissioner Calabretta asked Mr. Carrigan about lot 71 and their ISDS questioned a repair application regarding footage in elevation.  There is a discrepany between town map and the application for their repair.  Significant to that is 60 and 41 and dimensions on Ship St.  Somehow the trapezoid is missing on lot 75 did the same thing happen?  He is seeing 95 and on the other map it is 102.  Carrigan the property slopes on the back corner and explained to the Planning Commission the discrepancy.  Part of original Jamestown bridge area.  Calabretta dimension 120 feet leach field and septic shpe of lot wrong and the dimensions there is no way that it could be squeezed into that area.  Girard point well taken.  Calabretta can’t believe this was approved.  Has nothing to do with this application.  Hogan the final item addressing the house plans as far as the total square footage of the house no plans or architecture plans yet.  2 story Colonial house with porch  total square footage 2520 for the house with the footprint being 1260 sq ft and the garage being 624 sq ft.  The applicant has not presented a house plan yet and the planning commission informed the attorney that they need the foundation plans to determine least possible disturbance to the site.  Concerned with minimal disturbance to the site.  Kallfelz is this a hypothetical footprint.  Conflict occurs with the strictness of the ordinance and the applicant not wanting to go to the expense before this.  We need to look at what exactly the footprint will be and the disturbance to the site.  Hogan do we want to continue now or suspend.  Vic lets give them advice now so we can circumvent them coming back over and over.  From engineering standpoint the property owners surrounding should see the type of flow they see now before the house is done.  Commissioner Calabretta showed a drawing of what could potentially happen with ponding of the water on the site with what is being proposed at this time.  What has happened on all of these properties, this property unique a lot of water captured, increased challenge with this property.  A drainage challenge and also minimal disturbance to the property.  As a commissioner he cannot approve that this is minimal disturbance to the property.  Calabretta apologized Hogan says what the neighbor sees now is what they need to see when the house is done.  All the water contained on the property.  Not see in the visual sense.  Commissioner Holland developed guidance as far as footprint what they have now is more than twice the size of what the pc would be looking for.  Any other concerns, slab above 12 inches seasonal groundwater needs to clearly show.  Foundation and footing allow the water to go through the foundation.  Hogan unique situation processing of the app at Isds started in January of 02 and now this ordinance is in effect.  Girard one of the reasons this ordinance is in effect.  Holland bringing in a lot of fill needs to be justified,  Kallfelz can be a disadvantage making more of a problem for run off.  If 12 inches above water table Dick questioned if you slope the water away do u think it applicable in this case?  If you go down that path you will be fighting what the ordinance is trying to do.  Thanks to the applicants etc.  Town Planner will let the PC know when this will be taken care of. 

Commissioner Girard no additional items on the agenda.  Kallfelz they learned a bit about the process and either put this on or skip a meeting.  Best case scenario we could have continued which we did.


A motin to adjourn made by Commissioner Calabretta 2nd by Commissioner Kallfelz at 8:27 p.m.  So unanimously voted